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or deadpan "it's for me" lol
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Yuka
or deadpan "it's for me" lol
no no no no no not like this lol
5:31 PM
i'de die
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lol But really, no one cares. People feel self-conscious buying odd things if it's for themself, but if it were an actual gift for someone else they would probably not feel self-conscious at all
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yeah it was really -mostly- in my head
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proof: me buying clothes from the men's section when it's a gift for my brother
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or deadpan "it's for me" lol
@Yuka (@Aya) - jump you need some balls to say that lol
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Candy would say that, I'm sure. (edited)
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Life is too short to worry about everything is all.
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I've recently gotten into the habit of more constant narration and they're a lot more responsive now. when i really focus i think i can hear a tiny bit of their voice
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your on the right path keep on going you will get there
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What's a common tulpa experience in the community you just don't believe in/believe is possible?
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being happy
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Having more than 2 tulpas that are well rounded and actually independent
6:21 PM
And I’m saying this as a system with 3 tulpas (edited)
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Deleted User 1/26/2022 6:22 PM
Tulpas living their own life in WL when you are not focused on them. A lot of people claimed this kind of stuff but I believe it's no different from children's rationalization of their imaginary friends living their own life when they are not with them.
6:23 PM
People that say that are usually people claiming to have a massive amount of tulpas and are just trying to make themselves think their tulpas are actually there even though it’s impossible to actually give them all the time they need
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night demon (scaly system) 1/26/2022 6:24 PM
thats why i stick to 1 for now maybe i have a walk-in but idk i only hear her at night
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Another thing “Self forcing” that doesn’t include fronting and is just in headspace isn’t a thing and just an excuse for people that don’t give their tulpas enough time
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Another thing “Self forcing” that doesn’t include fronting and is just in headspace isn’t a thing and just an excuse for people that don’t give their tulpas enough time
night demon (scaly system) 1/26/2022 6:26 PM
this can make the tulpa hate you tho so idk why ppl do this
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All your doing is neglecting your tulpa and wondering why they aren’t developing on their own
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night demon (scaly system) 1/26/2022 6:27 PM
true true
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Unolan
What's a common tulpa experience in the community you just don't believe in/believe is possible?
Anything tulpa related being anything closely similar to the experience of the body sleeping.
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What do you mean?
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People think like the host switching out is gonna be like them going unconscious like sleeping and I mean... maybe SORT of in a vague sense but not at all like what they're usually thinking
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Deleted User
Tulpas living their own life in WL when you are not focused on them. A lot of people claimed this kind of stuff but I believe it's no different from children's rationalization of their imaginary friends living their own life when they are not with them.
A long kiss goodnight 1/27/2022 2:54 AM
Yeah... I bet parallel processing isn't going to be all that it's cracked up to be, but I'm hoping I can achieve results with it. However, from what I studied so far, I'm going to be annoyed if the truth is tulpas in parallel can't really properly think in parallel, so they "dream" or whatever else. It would align with my beliefs you should still make an effort to spend time with your tulpas though.
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Unolan
What's a common tulpa experience in the community you just don't believe in/believe is possible?
A long kiss goodnight 1/27/2022 2:59 AM
I don't believe anything magical actually happens, but sometimes the explanation can be more interesting. I think system hopping is complex, dedicated personality forcing that requires two systems to really know each other to pull off. I don't think soulbonds are actually from another dimension, but I believe that unconsciously, their "memories" do influence their personality and behavior. I don't think tulpas can interact with the physical world, but I find the idea of a group of people weirded out by something and suddenly hallucinating a tulpa to be really interesting.
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A long kiss goodnight
Yeah... I bet parallel processing isn't going to be all that it's cracked up to be, but I'm hoping I can achieve results with it. However, from what I studied so far, I'm going to be annoyed if the truth is tulpas in parallel can't really properly think in parallel, so they "dream" or whatever else. It would align with my beliefs you should still make an effort to spend time with your tulpas though.
Deleted User 2/2/2022 2:20 PM
I think that the "parallel processing" might either be a kind of multitasking, or a myth. (edited)
2:23 PM
I havent seen any system doing that tho, so i believe that taking turns quickly (like during a board game) is the closest most systems can do
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A long kiss goodnight 2/2/2022 2:27 PM
If it turns out to be a myth, I want to at least establish I checked everything I could get my hands on. Parallel processing was seen as a normal part of tulpamancy back then, if I'm going to put the last few nails in that coffin and teach it isn't real, I want to be absolutely sure before I publish any guide material. Given what I learned, I think there's definitely something there. I met another system who claimed they could parallel process, but they didn't know it was parallel processing. People sometimes use vocality as an example of light parallel processing, and while I disagree I think it's worth it to look deeper into the concept parallel processing is another aspect of independence and autonomy. Additionally, I mentioned the "persistent realms" example, I want to see if I can recreate that myself. Worst case scenario, I don't think parallel processing is completely fake, even if the key selling point turns out to be (edited)
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God why does y'all have the best discussions when I'm in class xP
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I think what people get hung up on is that PP doesn't give "more" processing power. If you are successful, your own power is reduced.
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Felicja BOT 2/2/2022 2:37 PM
God why does y'all have the best discussions when I'm in class xP
@Fazzie - jump timezones are a bitch - that's why.
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I also don't think that "brain power" is something that can be quantified, so thinking of it like a silicon based computer is flawed
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Felicja BOT 2/2/2022 2:38 PM
Noma - Brain Power.ogg
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Disagreed there tbh. It's really not that hard to quantify it. I do like the idea that you're more so splitting the processing power rather than adding more so having someone with a lot of it try in that approach might be interesting
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With neuroplasticity, I think it is possible for tuppers to "control" a group of neurons and use them for themselves
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Fuck class starting again
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And still have the brain function normally for your own needs
2:40 PM
But I base that on absolutely nothing
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Maenethal
I also don't think that "brain power" is something that can be quantified, so thinking of it like a silicon based computer is flawed
A long kiss goodnight 2/2/2022 2:42 PM
I don't really know what to expect, but I expect some sort of consequence one way or another. From what I studied, it's not uncommon for the inner world to have "reduced bandwidth" to the point you can't function very well. For instance, headmates tend to be more impulsive and emotional while some reported being in a dream-like state. It may be a spectrum of how much you can work with.
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Sebastian BOT 2/2/2022 2:49 PM
For me when Maen isn't paying enough attention to me it's like I just lose awareness. I can still feel his emotions and whatnot, but its very muted
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I've been trying to get better about that
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A long kiss goodnight 2/2/2022 2:51 PM
There are a good number of techniques out there that can help you keep Seb afloat. You may have already heard of the bracelet method and similar versions of that. Oh yeah, I forgot about the string guide (edited)
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Felicja BOT 2/2/2022 2:55 PM
Bracelets, artwork on a piece of furniture, desktop and phone wallpapers.. I can confim that these things do help a bit.
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Felicja BOT 2/3/2022 4:04 AM
I've accidentaly switched for 15 minutes today! 😄
4:09 AM
+a walk-in came for a while,made a "news report" regarding the latest events from our mindscape as well as the first "Monthly Freeing From Dokuro Commemoration" Mat's planning tomorrow
4:10 AM
(i'm waiting for a anti-air birch and Smoleńsk Catastrophe reference, Aki! 😉 )
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Something that's always said is the anxiety n such around parroting and how to deal with that and etc. Has anyone ever asked or thought about how would a tulpa (if you could even call it in that case) develop if it was only through parroting?
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worst case scenario a tulpa never develops IMO; you just create a puppet
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And best case scenario?
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A long kiss goodnight 2/3/2022 10:01 PM
worst case scenario a tulpa never develops IMO; you just create a puppet
Ah, that was debunked a long time ago
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debunked..?
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This is interesting because the main takeaway is that what the guy was calling parroting was actually the tulpa speaking
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A long kiss goodnight 2/3/2022 10:08 PM
In short, you don't have to fulfill an arbitrary number of hours to achieve tulpa creation and there isn't a magic window for sentience, as long as you work towards sentience you are only more likely to achieve it
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oh shit, that's coming back to me
10:10 PM
everyone was using FAQ_man's guides back then, and when I lost contact is then people started questioning the hourcounts
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Part of me feels like tulpa speaking is less about the tulpa developing its own channel to speak through and more so the parroting becoming "independent" in a way
10:11 PM
Still coming from the host but the host doing different "thinking logic", if that makes sense.
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Flodos
everyone was using FAQ_man's guides back then, and when I lost contact is then people started questioning the hourcounts
A long kiss goodnight 2/3/2022 10:12 PM
Ah, I see.
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I never bought into the hourcounts though, but I definitely got in on the anti-parroting measures
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This is thinking me of an alternative way of creating a tulpa; rather than the usual "talk to the void and wait for it to give slight responses then slightly more vocal til someone is there" if a "fully parrot the tulpa until they're independent & saying or doing things you didn't parrot or expect them to" approach would work
10:16 PM
You could start with generic phrases and responses but I'm sure they'd slowly start taking their own speech patterns
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I still fear parroting a lot; it often feels like I talk for them, stealing their chance to respond, and they get upset at me when I don't catch it :c
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Deleted User 2/3/2022 10:18 PM
i'm afraid of parrots too
10:20 PM
the best way for making sure your tulpas grow strong and big is to run new generations of them, that's what we do!
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Due to the way our system works we don't really fear it; we all see eachother as a different parts of the host that due to some emotional history he ended repressing so there's no problem if he "parrots" us because in the end we are still him, in a certain way.
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Deleted User 2/3/2022 10:20 PM
we are on 23rd generation
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Deleted User
the best way for making sure your tulpas grow strong and big is to run new generations of them, that's what we do!
I don't think that's a common practice
10:21 PM
But is certainly an interesting one
10:21 PM
How does that work, more or less?
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first time I hear of it as well
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Deleted User 2/3/2022 10:21 PM
so basically you get all the tulpas and host and destroy them, and on their place there is a new host, and the new host starts a new generation!
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holy sh-
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That certainly raizes some eyebrows
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Deleted User 2/3/2022 10:23 PM
it's best to write down everything before you do it though, we keep notebooks one for each generation
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so uh.. I don't mean to judge, but why..?
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Deleted User 2/3/2022 10:24 PM
it is scary sometimes especially when we had 134 tulpas in generation 14 but it gets easier with each generation
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So like, uh... Does no identity "survive" a "gener
10:24 PM
You WHAT
10:24 PM
How do you even handle 134 tulpas
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Deleted User 2/3/2022 10:24 PM
yes exactly that's why we needed new generation
10:24 PM
generation 14 went out of control, tulpas creating their own tulpas
10:25 PM
crazy!
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So wait, is the point of the purge because you couldn't stop them from multiplying
10:25 PM
So you decided to get rid of all of them and start again, including the host, and that happened 23 times?
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Deleted User 2/3/2022 10:25 PM
i prefer to look at it as burning down the forest to have something new to grow
10:26 PM
i'm hoping to survive to the next generation, it never happened for us so far but i will try!
10:26 PM
Wait
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A long kiss goodnight 2/3/2022 10:26 PM
I was thinking about one system where the host tried making new versions of her servitor, but that's certainly something I never heard of before. When my host sort of abandoned our system, he "combined" a bunch of characters into one. It turns out it wasn't really combining, the strongest "character" is possibly the oldest tulpa in our system, the rest became lost to the mind, and the end result was my creation.
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Who like
10:26 PM
Controls the generation shift?
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Fazzie
So you decided to get rid of all of them and start again, including the host, and that happened 23 times?
Deleted User 2/3/2022 10:26 PM
no, it's generation 23 so it's 22 times
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Like who says "Ok that's enough no more"
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Deleted User 2/3/2022 10:26 PM
i will get new notebook for generation 24 and put my name there before we do it next time so i can survive
10:27 PM
well it depends!
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